Kate Brauman says that we are not hopeless. In our age of farming, roads, timber harvests, climate, pollution, and exploiting the land and sea, we can change our activities. We can have better intergovernmental cooperation. We can integrate the way local cultures manage their areas. We can be stewards of the planet.
Both guests see this as an anthropocentric report.
When people talk about transformative changes, they are careful not to talk about population control.